Comments on: Vin d’effort and vin de terroir: writing as a conversation with the world http://elizabethstark.com/2010/02/03/vin-d%e2%80%99effort-and-vin-de-terroire-writing-as-a-conversation-with-the-world/ Elizabeth Stark's Storytelling World Sat, 04 Dec 2010 02:05:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: admin http://elizabethstark.com/2010/02/03/vin-d%e2%80%99effort-and-vin-de-terroire-writing-as-a-conversation-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1546 admin Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:19:04 +0000 http://elizabethstark.com/?p=1512#comment-1546 Thanks, Amy and Thaisa. Amy--Yes! Channeling and slogging, ain't it the truth. Thaisa--The vintner was strongly in favor of vin de terroir over vin d'effort, saying that originality was located in the former. Not sure what he'd say about vin de terror, but I expect it does, as you suggest, amount to the same thing. Beautifully put! Thanks, Amy and Thaisa.
Amy–Yes! Channeling and slogging, ain’t it the truth.
Thaisa–The vintner was strongly in favor of vin de terroir over vin d’effort, saying that originality was located in the former. Not sure what he’d say about vin de terror, but I expect it does, as you suggest, amount to the same thing. Beautifully put!

]]> By: Thaisa Frank http://elizabethstark.com/2010/02/03/vin-d%e2%80%99effort-and-vin-de-terroire-writing-as-a-conversation-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1545 Thaisa Frank Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:13:30 +0000 http://elizabethstark.com/?p=1512#comment-1545 At first I read this as vin de terreur (wine of terror). And this is pretty close to the bone, because this is often how I experience is vin de terroir. The first drafts are always the wines of terror and earth. Later drafts, with editors, allow for vin d'effort. I often wish I could write a vin d'effort. But my voice doesn't work that way, or grow in the earth that way. At first I read this as vin de terreur (wine of terror). And this is pretty close to the bone, because this is often how I experience is vin de terroir. The first drafts are always the wines of terror and earth. Later drafts, with editors, allow for vin d’effort. I often wish I could write a vin d’effort. But my voice doesn’t work that way, or grow in the earth that way.

]]> By: Amy http://elizabethstark.com/2010/02/03/vin-d%e2%80%99effort-and-vin-de-terroire-writing-as-a-conversation-with-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1532 Amy Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:39:08 +0000 http://elizabethstark.com/?p=1512#comment-1532 it's like the difference between channeling and slogging. any novel is probably a combo of both. the channeling is the spark and the slogging is the time and commitment required. very interesting to think about, love the analogy. it’s like the difference between channeling and slogging. any novel is probably a combo of both. the channeling is the spark and the slogging is the time and commitment required.

very interesting to think about, love the analogy.

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